Is Anime Sexist?

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Is Anime Sexist?

Post by Doraemon » Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:37 pm

Curious more than agreeing actually, I wonder if anyone (esp. girls) feels that Anime is sexist with its over-emphasis on women's anatomy and unusually skimpy clothes. Sometimes while watching some series I was thinking it would put the girls off and I am surprise in this day of age Anime is so widely received by both genders worldwide. I am neutral really and don't hold a strong view on this but am very curious what the fans think.

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Post by Tracy » Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:22 pm

Um I don't think ALL anime is sexist, however it is all geared towards a male audience. There are anime with very strong female characters such as scrapped princess. The one thing I would say though is usually female characters need protecting in some way, like they can't look after themselves. And they always have those really high pitched irritating voices, that make them sound 5. So um sexist yes and some of it always makes me think of pedophiles.

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Post by Doraemon » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:44 pm

Tracy wrote:Um I don't think ALL anime is sexist, however it is all geared towards a male audience. There are anime with very strong female characters such as scrapped princess. The one thing I would say though is usually female characters need protecting in some way, like they can't look after themselves. And they always have those really high pitched irritating voices, that make them sound 5. So um sexist yes and some of it always makes me think of pedophiles.
Agreed, not all are sexist and I guess a lot depends on the author, like Ranma, I think in that there are many strong female characters, and even the main protagonist has a gender identity crisis :lol:

Interesting note about the voice, I never thought of it as irritating, but rather "cute", almost like a kid...come to think of it, yes...irritating is apt. As for the paedophilic nature, if you tie that with the voice, then I can certainly see where you are coming from. Very interesting views indeed :)

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Post by floz » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:21 am

Interesting thread! To be fair, I have felt that some of the anime I've seen is sexist, but it doesn't usually bother me. I find it tends to be more of an issue in gaming, and for some reason it annoys me more in that context. I agree with Tracy that a lot of female characters in anime seem to need protecting. Girls want strong female characters that we can look up to!

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Post by Minotaur » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:37 am

Taking the genre as a whole, I don't think it'd be fair to say anime is sexist at all. As far as I know, the anime market in Japan is 50/50, and the series that are released seem to reflect that.

However, I think it would be fair to say that much of the anime imported westwards over the last few decades has been generally geared to a male audience. Even that's been changing over the last few years though....

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Post by sadie » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:32 pm

It's obviously true that some anime is sexist, but the medium is so broad that it clearly doesn't apply across the board. Anime earned a bad name in the west because the first things to get translated were the giant robots and the porn. The market has broadened immensely in the last few years though, and we do try to show a selection of series that reflects this.

Some of the anime aimed at men certainly features stereotypical submissive female characters. And some of it features pathetic wimpy men instead. But in contrast, a lot of the series aimed at women have incredibly submissive female characters, and domineering men. They can also be just as shallow as the male-oriented series, just shallow in a different way.

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Post by ako » Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:13 pm

well im not sure about the whole anime collection out there but in general there is alot of sexism in anime and also some of it is glorified porn!!
a few examples, urotsukidoji is sexist and basically cartoon porn, then there are things like project Ako and Battle Angel Alita, where the main character is female and sh*ts bricks. but if you look at things like school rumble then you get a mixture of both strong male and female characters.

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Post by Bob790 » Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:16 pm

A lot of the anime released in this country is sexist. That doesn't mean anime is sexist just that the marketing guys at the various distributors still think that the majority of their customer base are boy/men who objectify women.

On the other hand one of Revelation's first UK releases was a Fruits Basket box set, so perhaps the future is looking brighter for female and/or socially well adjusted anime fans.

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Post by Tracy » Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:19 am

bob790 wrote:On the other hand one of Revelation's first UK releases was a Fruits Basket box set, so perhaps the future is looking brighter for female and/or socially well adjusted anime fans.
Fruits Basket is by far my fave anime of all time and I must have seen it about 50 time now. But yes indeed even fruits basket IS sexist. Tohru Honda is submissive, does all the cooking/ cleaning does not know how to fight is always cheery never says a bad word and is basically THE stereotypical female stay at home while her husband goes out to work. She even fails at school and has to get the help of Yuki to help her catch up.

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Post by Big Al » Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:41 pm

Tracy wrote:And they always have those really high pitched irritating voices, that make them sound 5
Unfortunately, that description also matches half of the female population of Japan...
Sadie wrote:Some of the anime aimed at men certainly features stereotypical submissive female characters. And some of it features pathetic wimpy men instead.
Very true, just look at Evangelion. The main male character (Shinji) is completely spineless, and wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes without two of the main women (Asuka and Minato). Definately not a female oriented anime!

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Post by Pyrope » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:30 am

I think some of it is but it doesnt really bother me that much. I do tend to get angry at some of the female characters though
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Post by Bob790 » Mon May 21, 2007 6:24 pm

Tracy wrote:Fruits Basket is by far my fave anime of all time and I must have seen it about 50 time now. But yes indeed even fruits basket IS sexist. Tohru Honda is submissive, does all the cooking/ cleaning does not know how to fight is always cheery never says a bad word and is basically THE stereotypical female stay at home while her husband goes out to work.
But she is far from the only female character in the series. The only thing the girls of Fruits Basket have in common is that they have all chosen to be what and who they are. Tohru is never forced to do any of the things she does, she does it because she's living rent free in a stranger's house.
Tracy wrote: She even fails at school and has to get the help of Yuki to help her catch up.
So it's sexist to suggest that women are not all geniuses? Most anime feature boys who fail at school and need to get help (often from a girl) is it sexist to apply an even had in this matter?

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Post by tjforste » Tue May 22, 2007 11:14 am

There are lots of series that also are aimed towards women,

Bleach seems to have a bit of both. the deathgod is the fan service.
the main character is the "hunk" for the girls.

Stratos 4 is showing strong girls.

She , Ultimate Fighting Machine
doesnt have the fan service but the story is a love story and aimed towards women.

Divergence Eve has a strange story mecha and too much fan service all the women are at least K cups and wear miniskirts

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Post by Bob790 » Tue May 22, 2007 1:40 pm

mpforste wrote:Divergence Eve has a strange story mecha and too much fan service all the women are at least K cups and wear miniskirts
Divergence Eve is sexist. Quite clearly sexist.

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Post by tjforste » Tue May 22, 2007 3:31 pm

I did say it had a lot of Fanservice

but the story grabs you as well

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