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Name Pronounciation

Post by Pyrope » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:08 pm

Can anyone give me phonetics for pronouncing these Japanese names:

Hibiki
Takumi
Kaede

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Re: Name Pronounciation

Post by Mr Onishi » Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:04 pm

Pyrope wrote:Can anyone give me phonetics for pronouncing these Japanese names:

Hibiki
Takumi
Kaede
Hee-bee-key
Ta-koo-me

Not too sure on the phonetics for the last one...

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Post by Mr Onishi » Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:06 pm

Kah-eh-de[s]ad[/s]

Last bit like dead, just without the ending.

Anyone can feel free to correct me

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Post by Pyrope » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:43 pm

Okay, this was sort of how I was pronouncing them to start with, just needed some backing up ^^

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Post by Big Al » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:13 pm

Hibiki isn't hee-bee-key

It's more like Hih-bikky

The ku in Takumi would be shorter than koo.

I recommend listening to the phonetics section of any Japanese course CD. The phonemes are very simple compared to those in English, and once you've got them down (probably only a few hours of practice needed) you can say almost any Japanese word that you see written in English.

Differentiating between su, tsu, tzu and chu though takes years.

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Post by Pyrope » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:18 pm

Big Al wrote:It's more like Hih-bikky

The ku in Takumi would be shorter than koo.
That was more how I was pronouncing them to start off with.

It was just Kaede that was confusing me the most

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Post by Big Al » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:26 pm

Anime references for the characters. You can get the pronunciation by watching these series.

Hibiki - Vandread
Takumi - Initial D
Kaede - InuYasha

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Post by Pyrope » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:27 pm

Big Al wrote:Anime references for the characters. You can get the pronunciation by watching these series.

Hibiki - Vandread
Takumi - Initial D
Kaede - InuYasha
Thanks! Although now this means I will watch these instead of working ><

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Post by sadie » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:23 pm

I agree with Big Al that the basic Japanese phonemes are quite simple to pick up, particularly for somebody with a history of watching anime.

But one issue to be aware of is that the way Japanese words are written in English is quite variable and inconsistent. For example Tohru (from Fruits Basket) could conceivably be written Tooru. Letters that are written the same (in English) aren't always pronounced the same: for example, the 'to' sound in Tokyo is long, while the 'to' sound in Kyoto is short.

Actual Japanese writing doesn't have these ambiguities, of course. It's just us.

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Post by Big Al » Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:01 pm

sadie wrote: But one issue to be aware of is that the way Japanese words are written in English is quite variable and inconsistent. For example Tohru (from Fruits Basket) could conceivably be written Tooru. Letters that are written the same (in English) aren't always pronounced the same: for example, the 'to' sound in Tokyo is long, while the 'to' sound in Kyoto is short.

Actual Japanese writing doesn't have these ambiguities, of course. It's just us.
Bah, it's only because most people don't use Hepburn! Tökyö and Kyöto really aren't that hard to write (it should actually be a bar over the o, not a diaeresis, but most fonts don't support it). Or hell, Toukyou and Kyouto if you don't have an international keyboard layout (I really recommend installing the custom UK (International) keyboard layout to anyone that writes european languages). Or hell, stick with the actual Japanese とうきょう and きょうと.

Grumble grumble ambiguous lazy bastards.

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Post by Pyrope » Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:03 pm

Could Michi be "Mee Chee"
And Yori would be? I can never get the "r" sounding like "l"

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Post by sadie » Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:19 pm

The trick with the R/L is to make it sound a bit like a D. Start with the movement your tongue makes for a D, and move the tongue backwards so it's striking the ridge on the top of your mouth rather than at the base of your teeth. Don't widen your mouth into an English R sound, keep your gums nice and tight.

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Post by Pyrope » Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:24 pm

I am so failing at this :(
Ill keep trying

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Post by sadie » Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:34 pm

Come along tomorrow night and we can have a go at it together. We haven't seen you in ages (though I quite understand why)

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Post by Pyrope » Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:36 pm

sadie wrote:Come along tomorrow night and we can have a got at it together. We haven't seen you in ages (though I quite understand why)
I cant get down at all. I miss everyone *wails*

I have both no money and exams coming up...I hope to come back soon though!

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